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4 Stages of Intimacy – Robert & Diane Masters – SC 7

By Jayson
August 6, 2015

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IN THIS EPISODE, You will learn:

  • The importance of recognizing conditioning and seeing its role in shaping a more mature relationship
  • Why knowing your past experiences and stories can re-empower your relationships
  • How to differentiate between healthy shame and unhealthy shame and how they play a crucial role in functional marriages
  • How recognizing stages of an evolving relationship can help you better connect with your partner
  • How to get to being centered and truly connected with your partner without sacrificing independence
  • About the key importance of vulnerability in a marriage
  • About the heart of really deep and truly fulfilling sex

And check out these four stages of relationship. We explore these in the episode.

1. Me-centered
2. We-centered codependent
3. We-centered co-independent
4. Being-centered

I had a lot of fun with this one. These two “get” long term relationship and what’s required to go the distance. They also know a great deal about shame, blame, and how to get over it by going to the next stage in your relationship. Robert also supports the power of men facing their own BS and his new book “To Be A Man” is going to be worth the read for the men out there.

Note, our call got “dropped” by skype at one point so you’ll notice the sound quality change a bit. Just a heads up. 

For more information, visit and CONNECT with Diane and Robert:

Robert Augustus Masters is a relationship expert, psychotherapist and trainer of therapists, with a doctorate in psychology. He is also the author of 14 books, including “Transformation through Intimacy” and “To Be a Man.”

Diane Bardwell Masters is an intuitive healer, relationship expert, and longtime professional singer. She works side-by-side and in very close conjunction with Robert in all the work they do.

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  1. Elfi

    Thank you so much for your teachings. I was really taken by your commitment to helping others. There is so much to learn. Its amazing how much i am getting out for signing up to Jayson’s program. I am overwhelmed by so much material he offers. I have a humble question: I HAVE SHARED MY FEELINGS WITH MY PARTNER ON A RECENT ISSUE. I SAID THAT I WAS HURT, UPSET AND DISAPPOINTED WITH SOME OF HIS BEHAVIOR AND HIS RESPONSE WAS…THAT I AM HURTING MYSELF !!! COULD THAT BE ???

    • meg@relationshipschool.com

      hi Elfi, I think this is a great thing to be curious about, and that you’re humbling to a response that does sound defensive on your partners behalf. It may be helpful to self-inquire on the ways in which perhaps the story you’re telling yourself (your perception/narrative) could be potentially based more in fantasy than in reality? At the same time, this sounds quite defensive and could be a projection or deflection on his part. It’s not possible to answer what is actually happening and I think your next move is to consider working with a Relationship Coach (https://relationshipschool.com/myrelationshipcoach/) or a Couples Therapist. I hope this helps and that you’re well, thanks for listening and apologies in the delay in replying.


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