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2 Types Of Narcissism & How To Avoid Them

By Jayson
August 19, 2020


A lot of podcast listeners ask about narcissism so I thought I’d find an expert.

Stan Tatkin is that guy. He did his dissertation on narcissism.

So this one gets really dense.

Stan reminds the listener that if you find yourself with a narcissistic person, you might want to look in the mirror. Gulp.


  • 7:50 Introduction Dr. Stan Tatkin
  • 17:05 What is a narcissist person?
  • 26:45 The second form of narcissism
  • 38:30 How narcissists perceive their relationships
  • 47:30 Is it possible to recover from a narcissistic behavior?
  • 49:40 How do you spot a narcissist?
  • 54:15: The difference between a healthy amount of selfishness and being a narcissist
  • 59:30 Are narcissists capable of experiencing love?
  • 1:04:30 What can we do for ourselves if we are around narcissists?
  • 1:07:15 Action Step

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  1. Aron Gersh

    Firstly, this is a GREAT interview, with so much relevant knowledge and reminds us of the amazing insights of psychoanalysis which seems never to be mentioned in the public world anymore as if it is no longer relevant.
    Secondly, their is a blindspot here: everyone talks about recognising OTHERS who are narcissists! How to spot a narcissist, etc. etc.. . . . as if WE OURSELVES are totally beyond narcissism. This is the most common, most all-round narcissism in the world . . that WE are not narcissistic, and THEY (the OTHER) is narcissistic.

  2. Kells

    Very informative. Confusing to have one part suggest that we look in the mirror while the title suggest avoiding them. Having dealt with this myself, I’d like to see the coaching and therapist community become better equipped to help. Is that possible? I am not an expert. In my limited experience, I see that a whole slew of approaches do not work with someone who cannot differentiate between their self and another. When this isn’t picked up on in coaching or therapy, I think it just makes things worse. Seems the person in the relationship who can tell the difference is left to look to people like Lisa A. Romano (who I found Very Helpful) to figure it out. I was expecting to get that help from my coach or therapist.

  3. susan b

    I have so always thought that. So it is good to see how it addresses the other flip side, (our own). Very Informative.


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